Pocket Pistol

[petepeterson]

I have two Beretta Model 21s and both are "Jam O matics"

I had trouble with the one I had, as well. I have a 21 in .25 ACP and it runs like a champ.

 

[mikerjf]

I highly recommend the 950 over the 21!

 

[Imissedagain]

Describe the type of jams that you have with the 21A.
Be specific.

 

[jimmyj]

I had trouble with the one I had, as well. I have a 21 in .25 ACP and it runs like a champ.

Rimfires are not as dependable as Centerfires

 

[jimmyj]

Describe the type of jams that you have with the 21A.
Be specific.

Failure To Feed and Failure to Eject with Standard and Hi Speed Ammo.
This is with different Magazines.
Both weapons and Magazines purchased NIB

 

[swsig]

Texas has very specific regulations for signs posted by businesses if they want to prohibit either open or concealed carry of handguns or both. Signs that don't meet all of these requirements have no legal force. Here are the requirements from the Texas Department of Public Safety website:

"A sign posted under §30.06, Texas Penal Code, must:

Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
A sign posted under §30.07, Texas Penal Code, must:

Include the following text in English and in Spanish:
"Pursuant to Section 30.07, Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is carried openly";
Appear in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and
Be displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public at each entrance to the property."

Not surprisingly, few businesses in Texas post these, because they don't want to lose business from Texas' 1.7 million holders of a License to Carry, and from who knows how many other Texans who practice permitless carry.

Personally, I pocket carry a very reliable 1.0 M&P 40 compact converted to .357 SIG in a DeSantis Nemesis holster. Odd, I know, but it works for me.

 

[Nomadmax]

Failure To Feed and Failure to Eject with Standard and Hi Speed Ammo.
This is with different Magazines.
Both weapons and Magazines purchased NIB

I've had 2 model 21As and they both had the same problems. What's worse is they don't have an extractor so some of those failures took a punch to remove the spent brass.

UNSATISFACTORY so they went down the road with people who were fully informed, but optimistic. I'd carry a lock blade knife before I carried any of those blow back no extractor pistols. At least you know where you stand with a knife.

 

[Doriangray6]

Little shocking for a free state. Is Cheyenne infested with, you know.

It's not Wyoming making these rules, it's the corporations that own the grocery chains.
The owners of the little independent market where I sometimes buy eggs and other small purchases have no such rules.

 

[petepeterson]

Describe the type of jams that you have with the 21A.
Be specific.

Mine was used, to be fair.
Most common was failure to extract.
It ran better with Mini-Mags than Stingers, I believe due to the case length.

 

[Doug M.]

As a general rule, no one needs to know you are carrying. I have carried a Glock 26, eventually replaced with a 33, in a Kramer pocket holster. It is a good system for most purposes. Pocket carry when driving is ... imperfect.

I carried that platform as a BUG in uniform, originally in an an ankle holster that laced into my boots, then in a holster mounted in the straps of my body armor when I became less flexible.

 

[BE Mike]

Some companies have insurance policies that state that no firearms are to be carried on the premises. At the health care facility that I go to, they have a sign at the entrance banning firearms. My healthcare provider, who is a gun guy, told me to ignore it. No offense intended, but I'd rather not carry a firearm than to carry a .22 LR handgun. I wouldn't want to just tick off an attacker even more!

 

[STORMINORMAN]

My Bobcat has been very reliable with MiniMags. For concealability it is hard to beat a 442 or a KAHR CW380 in pocket holsters.

Cheers!

 

[jimmyj]

For the Businesses' that prohibited Guns--CCW a hand grenade--Downside it makes a mess of the incident scene.

 

[alwslate]

I have two Beretta Model 21s and both are "Jam O matics"

Many people think the more powerful .22 LR will be better in a small pocket auto than the .22 Short and find out they are wrong. The much longer LR doesn't feed as well as the .22 Short and the model 950 Beretta is very reliable.

 

[Imissedagain]

If failure to feed, is the bullet nose going up to the top of the
chamber's entrance, and not going in, that might be that the lips
of the magazine, are too wide.
About 15 years ago, I had that discussion with the Smiths and
executives at Beretta.
They said that they would pinch the lips a bit, on future mags.
Look at yours and check that.
Brass not ejecting, is often caused by a slightly dirty chamber.
With the Bobcats in 22LR, if the bullet drops into the chamber,
and when you turn the open barrel down, the round should just
drop out. If not, swab the barrel.
I swab mine every 40 rounds or less.
My boy fired 108, and he nor the smith at a range, could get it cleared.
Phone Dad and they got a lesson.
He knew better but wanted to see how many would lock it up.
My new HS 22LR, locked up after 120 rounds back in '68.

I never have problems with ours, as the mag lips are now correct, and chambers kept clean.
22LR ammo, not going bang, is a different issue.
A constant diet of HV ammo, is not recommended by Beretta, as it will just wear it out faster.
I trust our two, more than the ammo.
S&Walther 380 PPKs and LCP, are carried most often with
what we load.