Family Gone For Their Cause

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Family gone for their cause:

Pvt. Thomas P. Carroll, MD; DOD 7 Aug 1857, Carlisle Barracks, PA

Pvt. Thomas Whittle, MD; KIA Apr 1862, Shiloh, Tennessee

Sgt. John Benjamin Hersey, PA; d smallpox, 7 Dec 1862; Co. I,166th Pennsylvania

Pvt. Edward Linton, OH; died POW 5 Oct 1864, Andersonville, Sumter Co. GA; Co. C, 22nd Pa. Cav

Pvt. Levi Linton, OH; brother of Edward, KIA 9 May 1864, Rocky Face Ridge, Whitfield Co. GA; Co E, 64th Ohio Inf.

Pvt. William Thomas Judkins, AL; KIA 18 Jul 1864 Coosa River, Greenport Al. fighting a Union cavalry raid

Pvt. Otho Linton, OH; served 1861–1864, KIA 8 Aug 1864, Atlanta Crossroads, GA; Co. E, 52nd Ohio Vol. Inf

Pvt. Jeremiah Linton, OH; brother of Otho, died in ACW

Pvt. John S. Hugunin, NY; 22 Aug 1864, Petersburg, Dinwiddie Co. VA, Co. E, Co. A, 81st NY Inf.

Pvt. Alfred Hugunin, NY; died POW 5 Sep 1864, Andersonville, Sumter Co. GA

Pvt. David James Hugunin, NY; died 24 Oct 1864 VA

Pvt. Thomas Linton, MD; KIA 5 Feb 1865, Dabney's Mill, Hanover Co. VA

Pvt. James I Carroll, MD; DOW 20 Jul 1912, Co B 8th Md Inf

Pvt. Harry L. Reinisch, MD; III, KIA 8 Mar 1945, near Ossenburg Germany; 137th Inf, 35 Div

Bugler Howard I. Carroll, my grandfather
117th Trench Mortar Battery, 42nd (Rainbow) Division, WW1, 1917 – 1919
The 117th fired more rounds than any other AEF trench mortar battery, supporting every infantry regiment in the Rainbow and for other divisions in their sectors at
(1) Lunéville sector, Lorraine, February 21 to March 23, 1918;
(2) Baccarat sector, Lorraine, March 31 to June 21, 1918;
(3) Esperance-Souain sector, Champagne, July 4 to July 15, 1918;
(4) Champagne-Marne defensive, July 15 to 17, 1918, where from the most advanced position in the Allied lines, overrun seven times in 48 hours, they stayed at their guns and killed 2,400 enemy infantry and destroyed 25% of the German tanks, according to General Henri Gouraud, Commander, 4th French Army;
(5) Aisne-Marne offensive July 25 to August 11, 1918;
(6) St. Mihiel offensive, September 12 to 16, 1918;
(7) Essey and Pannes sector, Woevre, September 17 to 30, 1918;
(8) Meuse-Argonne offensive, October 12 to November 1, 1918;
(9) Meuse-Argonne offensive, November 5 to 10, 1918;
The 117th stood before Sedan with the most advanced units of the AEF, and earned more battle streamers for their flag than any other unit in the AEF except the 1st Division, which had an equal number, and participated in the Rhine Occupation
His awards: Victory Medal with 5 bars, Occupation Medal, Croix de Guerre
Granddaddy Irvine died after the war from effects of being gassed.


Capt. Donald L. Gambrill, my father’s best friend, best man and my Godfather,
Lead Pilot, B-24, 830th Bomb Sqd, 485th Bomb Group (Heavy), WW2
55 missions over France, Germany, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Austria & Italy
Awards: Distinguished Flying Cross (2), Air Medal (3), Purple Heart
KIA 10-Apr-45

My Dad was a B-24 engine mechanic during WWII. After finishing his maintenance work, he'd go along with the flight crews on their check flights, sort of a guarantee he did the job right. He hated B-24's, calling them "Torches" and "Flying Coffins" for their propensity to burn and the difficulty of bailing out of them. The gasoline tanks were above the crew, pretty much dooming them if a fire started.
On 10 Apr 1945, Captain Gambrill was lead pilot for the mission with the Squadron Commander for copilot and an extra navigator. Coming off the target near Lugo, Italy, heading for the rally at 22,000 feet, his plane was hit by flak on the forward bulkhead of the open bomb bay, starting a raging fire there. Normally, the navigator and bombardier bail out the nose wheel, two gunners go out the rear camera hatch, and the other seven crew go out the bomb bay, now engulfed in flames, inaccessible. The plane stayed wings level, decreasing speed and descending to a lower altitude for one to two minutes according to the after action report from other aircraft on the raid, and seven men were seen to leave the plane, the last being the copilot who went out through the cockpit window right after the plane exploded into multiple pieces.
At the crash site, one body was found on the ground with an unopened parachute, three burned to death in the rear fuselage wreckage, and three others apparently were killed by the Germans on the ground. The three survivors, one a POW and the other two successfully E&E, all reported they were fired on by the Germans while descending in their parachutes. Don's body was found still strapped into his pilot's seat in the nose wreckage. He apparently remained at the controls to buy his crew time to escape.
Earlier, Dad wrote to him saying "Don, you've done your duty, come home!" Don said he had to stay, because "I have to train these kids they're sending over here now. They don't even know how to transfer gas." He was twenty years old when he died.

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

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Are the first fourteen on the list all family members from several states?

On a technical note, Camp Sumter, commonly known as Andersonville prison and now part of the Andersonville National Historic Site, is located in Sumter County, GA which was created in 1831 and named after General Thomas Sumter. No "P" in Sumter.
Andersonville National Cemetery is also there. Veterans can still be buried at the cemetery with honors. My fathers gravesite is there.
 
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Are the first fourteen on the list all family members from several states? Yes, I'm still looking. I added the states they were from in an edit.
None of them except my grandfather Irvine are direct ancestors, but collateral - cousins, brothers, uncles - if they were, with that many, I might not be here. I find this list from the ACW particularly telling, because it illustrates how widespread, how heavy, the losses were, and how common it was for a family to be touched by that tragedy.
...No "P" in Sumter.....Got it - fixed it - thanks!
Andersonville National Cemetery is also there. Veterans can still be buried at the cemetery with honors. My fathers gravesite is there.
 
James I Carroll from Baltimore MD, of the 8th MD Inf Regt, was at Antietam Sep 1862; pursued Lee after Gettysburg Jul 1863; was at Rapidan - Bristoe Station, Haymarket Oct 1863; was at Battle of the Wilderness, charged the "Bloody Angle" Salient at Spotsylvania Courthouse May 1864; Cold Harbor and the Overland Campaign May, Jun 1864; Siege of Petersburg Jun-Dec 1864; Appomattox Campaign, Five Forks Mar-Apr 1865; Lee surrender 9 Apr 1865, Grand Review, Washington DC 23 May 1865 , mustered out 31 May 1865.
He was very active in Maryland for the rest of his life working for veterans' rights. After surviving three years of bloody combat, he died 47 years later in 1912, ironically, from shrapnel from the ACW working its way out of his leg, causing the infection which killed him.
 
My Hugunin line is from my uncle on my mother's side. Going way back, they came from Switzerland, immigrated into upstate New York, then westward into Wisconsin.
Good chance there is a family connection, my sister is the family historian so I will send her the information. Never know, might fill in come blanks!
 
Family gone for their cause:

Pvt. Thomas P. Carroll, MD; DOD 7 Aug 1857, Carlisle Barracks, PA

Pvt. Thomas Whittle, MD; KIA Apr 1862, Shiloh, Tennessee

Sgt. John Benjamin Hersey, PA; d smallpox, 7 Dec 1862; Co. I,166th Pennsylvania

Pvt. Edward Linton, OH; died POW 5 Oct 1864, Andersonville, Sumter Co. GA; Co. C, 22nd Pa. Cav

Pvt. Levi Linton, OH; brother of Edward, KIA 9 May 1864, Rocky Face Ridge, Whitfield Co. GA; Co E, 64th Ohio Inf.

Pvt. William Thomas Judkins, AL; KIA 18 Jul 1864 Coosa River, Greenport Al. fighting a Union cavalry raid

Pvt. Otho Linton, OH; served 1861–1864, KIA 8 Aug 1864, Atlanta Crossroads, GA; Co. E, 52nd Ohio Vol. Inf

Pvt. Jeremiah Linton, OH; brother of Otho, died in ACW

Pvt. John S. Hugunin, NY; 22 Aug 1864, Petersburg, Dinwiddie Co. VA, Co. E, Co. A, 81st NY Inf.

Pvt. Alfred Hugunin, NY; died POW 5 Sep 1864, Andersonville, Sumter Co. GA

Pvt. David James Hugunin, NY; died 24 Oct 1864 VA

Pvt. Thomas Linton, MD; KIA 5 Feb 1865, Dabney's Mill, Hanover Co. VA

Pvt. James I Carroll, MD; DOW 20 Jul 1912, Co B 8th Md Inf

Pvt. Harry L. Reinisch, MD; III, KIA 8 Mar 1945, near Ossenburg Germany; 137th Inf, 35 Div

Bugler Howard I. Carroll, my grandfather
117th Trench Mortar Battery, 42nd (Rainbow) Division, WW1, 1917 – 1919
The 117th fired more rounds than any other AEF trench mortar battery, supporting every infantry regiment in the Rainbow and for other divisions in their sectors at
(1) Lunéville sector, Lorraine, February 21 to March 23, 1918;
(2) Baccarat sector, Lorraine, March 31 to June 21, 1918;
(3) Esperance-Souain sector, Champagne, July 4 to July 15, 1918;
(4) Champagne-Marne defensive, July 15 to 17, 1918, where from the most advanced position in the Allied lines, overrun seven times in 48 hours, they stayed at their guns and killed 2,400 enemy infantry and destroyed 25% of the German tanks, according to General Henri Gouraud, Commander, 4th French Army;
(5) Aisne-Marne offensive July 25 to August 11, 1918;
(6) St. Mihiel offensive, September 12 to 16, 1918;
(7) Essey and Pannes sector, Woevre, September 17 to 30, 1918;
(8) Meuse-Argonne offensive, October 12 to November 1, 1918;
(9) Meuse-Argonne offensive, November 5 to 10, 1918;
The 117th stood before Sedan with the most advanced units of the AEF, and earned more battle streamers for their flag than any other unit in the AEF except the 1st Division, which had an equal number, and participated in the Rhine Occupation
His awards: Victory Medal with 5 bars, Occupation Medal, Croix de Guerre
Granddaddy Irvine died after the war from effects of being gassed.


Capt. Donald L. Gambrill, my father’s best friend, best man and my Godfather,
Lead Pilot, B-24, 830th Bomb Sqd, 485th Bomb Group (Heavy), WW2
55 missions over France, Germany, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Romania, Austria & Italy
Awards: Distinguished Flying Cross (2), Air Medal (3), Purple Heart
KIA 10-Apr-45

My Dad was a B-24 engine mechanic during WWII. After finishing his maintenance work, he'd go along with the flight crews on their check flights, sort of a guarantee he did the job right. He hated B-24's, calling them "Torches" and "Flying Coffins" for their propensity to burn and the difficulty of bailing out of them. The gasoline tanks were above the crew, pretty much dooming them if a fire started.
On 10 Apr 1945, Captain Gambrill was lead pilot for the mission with the Squadron Commander for copilot and an extra navigator. Coming off the target near Lugo, Italy, heading for the rally at 22,000 feet, his plane was hit by flak on the forward bulkhead of the open bomb bay, starting a raging fire there. Normally, the navigator and bombardier bail out the nose wheel, two gunners go out the rear camera hatch, and the other seven crew go out the bomb bay, now engulfed in flames, inaccessible. The plane stayed wings level, decreasing speed and descending to a lower altitude for one to two minutes according to the after action report from other aircraft on the raid, and seven men were seen to leave the plane, the last being the copilot who went out through the cockpit window right after the plane exploded into multiple pieces.
At the crash site, one body was found on the ground with an unopened parachute, three burned to death in the rear fuselage wreckage, and three others apparently were killed by the Germans on the ground. The three survivors, one a POW and the other two successfully E&E, all reported they were fired on by the Germans while descending in their parachutes. Don's body was found still strapped into his pilot's seat in the nose wreckage. He apparently remained at the controls to buy his crew time to escape.
Earlier, Dad wrote to him saying "Don, you've done your duty, come home!" Don said he had to stay, because "I have to train these kids they're sending over here now. They don't even know how to transfer gas." He was twenty years old when he died.

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

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WOW !!! God bless your family for their sacrifices.
I am speechless, with tears streaming down my face . . . .
 
I highly recommend that more members here study their ancestry. For me, it has provided a great insight into those grandfathers who served in prior wars. I found 6 Great-Grandfathers and 1 Great-Great Grandfather who served in the Civil War.

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I also found that I have 26 Great-Great Grandfathers who served in the Revolutionary War and 11 who served in the War of 1812!
 
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From time to time the tree or liberty must be bathed in the blood from patriots.

Now in our hours against the horde of Iran, this will become true again. The Almighty will see them through to salvation and everlasting glory.
 
Our ancestors may well have encountered one another. My 3G Grandfather, Cpl Isaac Hart 6th MI Cav. also died at Andersonville. My grandmother wired the B24s your father maintained.
 
Last time we went to war over "Weapons of Mass Destruction" in the Middle East it cost 8,189 US lives and 8 trillion dollars and accomplished absolutely nothing.

I don't expect much more from this rerun
Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction. Sarin Gas. Lots of it. Used it against Iranian military and civilians in their disastrous war in the 80’s. Their massive supply of it was shipped out across the Syrian border by trucks because we took so long to strike them after we announced our intentions to do so. Delay of almost a year. Plenty of time to move the Sarin out of country to a sympathetic neighboring ally.
 
If that is true explain just what we accomplished with our 8,000 + lives and 8 trillion dollars. The place is still as treacherous as it ever was and if the gas was relocated it still exists.

Now there are claims the Iranians relocated their enriched fuel. Sound familiar?

If the government, especially the defense dept, told me the sun would come up in the morning, I would go buy extra flashlight batteries.
 
I have five members of my family who faught in the Revolution at King's Mountain. A 10 Great Grandfather , three of his sons and a S-I-L. The Thomas Fain on this marker was my Great Grandfather, he moved to Decatur Co., Ga. from Onslow Co., NC (now the home of MCB Camp Lejeune).
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Iraq did have weapons of mass destruction. Sarin Gas. Lots of it. Used it against Iranian military and civilians in their disastrous war in the 80’s. Their massive supply of it was shipped out across the Syrian border by trucks because we took so long to strike them after we announced our intentions to do so. Delay of almost a year. Plenty of time to move the Sarin out of country to a sympathetic neighboring ally.

My then-professional opinion differs from yours, FWIW.
 
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